. >> caller: the comment about the defense of marriage act. you don't have to have a degree in political science to see that if you just read the constitution, it is clearly a constitutional -- amendment. driver's license is good in one state, it should be good in another state. it should apply to marriage certificates. defense of marriage act is a crazy point. >> stephanie: we got your point but we missed every other word. >> listener milt would like to say regarding the bible caller, mark stops at chapter 16 so he's not sure what mark 20-25 means. >> stephanie: you mean he mae have misspoke? >> he may have misspoke. >> stephanie: jesus meant the gays. that's what he meant. >> in mark -- >> mark 140-270. he says -- [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you have a bigger bible. we would have known that right away. all right. whatever. >> i have read the bible. i haven't memorized what chapters there are and stuff like that. >> stephanie: charles in tennessee. hello, charles. hello, charles! i tried. it doesn't go. okay. let's go to debbie in illinois. yo